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Terms 1 - 9 from S-52 which were not included in S-32 Appendix 1 (ECDIS Glossary)
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 Posted: Thu Sep 9th, 2010 07:31 am

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When S-52 was revised the Annex containing the "Glossary of ECDIS related terms" was removed with the proposal that the terms be transferred to S-32. The Committee on the Hydrographic Dictionary (CHD), as this group was at that time, reviewed the terms and, following Member State agreement, most were transferred to S-32 Appendix 1 (They will shortly be included in the online Wiki).

The CHD concluded that 29 terms from the S-52 Annex were not particularly related to "ECDIS" and should not be included in S-32 Appendix 1. The HDWG are now being invited to review these 29 terms and decide whether or not to recommend to HSSC that  they should be included in S-32. If they are recommended for inclusion in S-32 is the definition from S-52 OK or do they need amendment?

In some cases similar definitions already exist and these are shown in red in the attached file. For ease of work these definitions have been split into three groups and the attached file contains the first 9 terms. Comments on these are requested by 27 September 2010. The other two groups will also be loaded very shortly but with later dates for comment.

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 Posted: Thu Sep 9th, 2010 08:31 am

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Please note that there are some links between terms defined in each of the three groups so it is worth looking at the other two groups before commenting on terms in this first group.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 29th, 2010 07:20 am

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The WWNWS Sub-Committee (Formerly CPRNW) has almost completed a full revision of all WWNWS guidance documentation. Four such documents have already been adopted by the IMO and S-53 has been adopted by the IHO. The final document (NAVTEX Manual) will be submitted to IMO in March 2011. These documents all contain a consistent set of definitions for terms relevant to the WWNWS. One of the definitions is for Coastal Warning and is
"Coastal warning means a navigational warning promulgated as part of a numbered series by a National coordinator.  Broadcast shall be made by the International NAVTEX service to defined NAVTEX service areas and/or by the International SafetyNET service to coastal warning areas. (In addition, Administrations may issue coastal warnings by other means.)"

NAVAREA, which appears in the second group under this work item is also defined in S-53.

These and some other terms have also been submitted under work item B-4 by CPRNW. I think we need to make a fundamental decision as to whether these terms should be included in S-32 or remain in their specialist publication S-53. If they remain in S-32 clearly they should be consistent with S-53.

 

My personal view is that these are specialised terms that are not of direct relevance to "Hydrography" and should therefore only appear in S-53. I would also suggest that several of the other definitions in these 3 groups fall into a similar category, i.e. they are not of direct relevance to hydrography.

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 Posted: Wed Oct 6th, 2010 07:16 pm

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I was a strong proponent of not including terms that didn't relate directly to hydrography.  However, it seems that many of the terms we added last year were more related to charting and shipping than hydro.  This suggests a more "open" approach to inclusion of terms.  Using that as a preface, here are my thoughts on term 1-9.

1.  Aid to Navigation - Yes, I like the expanded definition over the one currently in S-32.

2.  AIS - OK - This seems to be widely used

3.  ARPA - Perhaps.  Other option would be to include in list of acronyms.

4.  Chart: nautical - I prefer the current S-32 definition but realize there may be some merit in the proposed definition's inclusion of "issued officially by or on the authority..."

5.  C.I.E. colour system - No

6.  Coastal Warning - No, but I could be talked into including it.

7.  Compilation - OK

8.  Differential system - See DIFFERENTIAL MODE - No need for another definition -  definitions of DGPS and differential mode are adequate.

9.  Electronic chart - I prefer the existing S-32 definition.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 12th, 2010 05:44 am

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I can agree in general with Jerry's proposals.

For ARPA I would prefer that it was just in the list of Acronyms;

For nautical chart I think we should go with the definition from SOLAS afterall the IHO was prominent in defining this term in SOLAS.

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I agree with Steve's comments regarding ARPA and nautical chart.

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Apologies for the late response.  I agree with all Steve's and Jerry's comments except for the following:

ARPA:  The list of acronyms contains only the acronym and its expansion.  The proposal contains a definition for ARPA.  If the definition is to be retained Automatic Radar Plotting Aid (ARPA) must be included as a term in the dictionary, and not an acronym.

Coastal Warning:  Looking at the definition for Hydrography, does this fit into the part of the definition that states "... the measurement and description of the physical features of oceans, seas, coastal areas, lakes and rivers, as well as with the prediction of their change over time, for the primary purpose of safety of navigation ..."?  An argument could be made that coastal warnings are a method of promulgating measurement of change over time, although it is very rarely "predicted".

Electronic chart:  I would prefer the S-52 definition as it provides a clearer distinction between an electronic chart (not necessarily compliant with SOLAS requirements) and an electronic navigational chart (compliant with SOLAS requirements); and fits better with the SOLAS definition for nautical chart that it appears we agree on for S-32.

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ARPA - As I mentioned before, either keeping the definition or just the acronym is fine with me.

Coastal warning - I'm confused about what Jeff is proposing.  the proposed definition seems full and complete to me.

Electronic chart - either one or both definitions is fine with me.

 

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 Posted: Wed Oct 27th, 2010 01:14 am

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In regard to coastal warning, I was presenting an argument to include the definition in S-32, in response to Jerry's original reply that his first thought was don't include it, but he could be talked into it

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 Posted: Wed Nov 3rd, 2010 02:23 pm

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I beleive that I have captured the essence of our agreement so far in the attached?

Attachment: Terms 1-9-Final.zip (Downloaded 4 times)

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 Posted: Wed Nov 3rd, 2010 03:39 pm

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Steve's summary is fine by me but perhaps not by Jeff.  I'm not familiar with the S-52 definition of "electronic chart".  Please advise/provide.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 3rd, 2010 03:40 pm

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Nevermind.  I see that Steve's definition is the S-52 definition.

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Looks fine to me. 

A couple of editorials:

-  Capitalise "navigation" and "vessel traffic services" in the definition for AIS.

-  Capitalise "radar" in definition for ARPA.

-  Capitalise "map" and "navigation" in definition for nautical chart.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 10th, 2010 06:24 am

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I have been through the list and hopefully have picked up all the entries which need capitalisation.

Attachment: Terms 1-9-Final.zip (Downloaded 1 time)


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